Just had a user cancel because they switch to a “better” VPN - Tuxeler. I guess they didn’t read their privacy policy which states that Tuxeler logs all your browsing activity and sell it to advertisers: https://tuxler.com/privacy-policy/ At least they are honest…
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Ahh A great example of a misinformed consumer getting tricked by a competing VPN without thorough research regarding how the competing VPN store, secure and share your data before cancelling and switching.
honestly, if they are gonna log me, they might as well make some money off of me, for all the free netflix they give me, cause i sure asheck aint using them for anything else remotely discreet
atleast 70k at all times? dang thts impressive considering these guys fake server stats page is sometimes 30-40k
im no fan of the way u guys post fanboybait stuff against competitors without any valid reason or criticism, and between portforward mullvad and unblock-us i dont think u serve any real purpose other guys dont do already but for free, but atleast u aint a bunch of censoring shits like u/protonmail
This is on the top of that page.
Where does it say that they log usage for their users when using their VPN?
Please note that this Privacy Notice only applies to data that we collect when you visit the Tuxler website at https://tuxler.com.
It says they only log on their website only.
Website activity: Data about your browsing activity on our website
It literary say on our website which is Tuxeler VPN site
Winscribe please read it carefully before you are harming your reputation by bashing false evidence and information.
They straight up do not have a Privacy Policy for the VPN. ONLY for the website.
Unless I missed something, they tell you NOTHING about what they do or don’t collect when you’re on their VPN. Not in their privacy policy nor in their end user agreement.
Perhaps it’s because “Tuxler is a community-powered VPN. Our users pool and share their resources.”
They don’t even host servers, you’re just sending all your traffic to random people. This is just HolaVPN all over again.
AND they sell all your data to advertisers, even if it’s just whatever they collect on their site.
I’ll just copy my response from before.
They straight up do not have a Privacy Policy for the VPN. ONLY for the website.
Unless I missed something, they tell you NOTHING about what they do or don’t collect when you’re on their VPN. Not in their privacy policy nor in their end user agreement.
Perhaps it’s because “Tuxler is a community-powered VPN. Our users pool and share their resources.”
They don’t even host servers, you’re just sending all your traffic to random people. This is just HolaVPN all over again.
AND they sell all your data to advertisers, even if it’s just whatever they collect on their site.
There is no ambiguity here. Source IP = client IP. Sites you visited = IPs you made outbound connections to. What are so you confused about?
In fact, inbound and outbound IPs are actually more ambiguous as VPN servers require 2 inbound + 2 outbound connections for one connection you make to an IP.
Also: Programs accessed or used. Are you serious? They don’t even have access to that information if you use an OpenVPN/IPSEC client.
Windscribe tracks your downloads? Boi, you have to be kidding… What do you download files from? Websites. That’s right, you download files from websites. Wow. Amazing. Mind-blowing. Guess what they don’t track: Sites you visited. Hmm… Can you put two and two together?
I’m not sure how much clearer we can be than the Privacy Policy and then the further in depth explanation on our Blog, which is also the top pinned post in this subreddit.
We tell you very explicitly every single thing we log and how/why we use that info.
And then, from the the Privacy Policy: “Anything that is not mentioned above is not stored.”
That line is pretty clear. Just because we didn’t include 17,329 things that we don’t log, doesn’t mean we do log them.
Source IP means…the source…IP…of the connection…
It certainly seems that way. But how do they increase speed 4x for paying customers since it’s dependent upon the internet speed of other users?
There’s not really a difference but I can see your concern.
Ask yourself, if we can’t identify you with BOTH pieces of information, how would we be able to identify you with just one piece of info?
Imagine the FBI or some other law enforcement agency coming to us and asking “Who was using the VPN on October 17th, 2018 at 4:59 PM?”
Even if we DID log, what are we supposed to provide? There’s at least 70,000 people using our VPN at all times. Does the FBI want a list of 70,000 random usernames? That’s all we can give and it’s a massive breach of privacy so they’d go through courts to subpoena us for that info. But we don’t even log anything like that so we literally have nothing to give.
Now for the other case where the FBI comes to us without a timestamp, and asks “Who was using this specific IP?” Well, thousands of people use the IP. Another useless question from the FBI.
So they have to come to us with an IP AND timestamp. They ask “who was using this specific IP on October 17th, 2018 at 4:59 PM?”
And we tell them we have no clue because we don’t store any logs about users or browsing. They’re out of luck!
This is just silly nickpicking and I’m sure you are aware of this.
Probably because their software throttles the connection unless you pay. Just a guess though, don’t quote me on that.
Probably because their software throttles the connection unless you pay.
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Your support is much appreciated! And these are the kind of discussions that most intrigue me because I like to see what other points of view and opinions our users hold.
However, if you’re just going to keep questioning the “true” intentions behind every word, we’ll be here all night.
“What did Windscribe really mean by ‘IP address’? How do we know they are specifically talking about the Internet Protocol address? How do we know IP isn’t an acronym for something else and they are actually watching me through the webcam???”
You’re looking for a “Gotcha!” somewhere here, I’ll save you the time, you won’t find one.
Let me clear this up once and for all, we don’t want to log you. It’s extra work. We have no timestamps and we have no IP usage records. There is nothing being logged except what we tell you in the Privacy policy. It’s not ambiguous and I personally feel like we did strike a good balance with our Privacy Policy. 3 bullets for the main things most people worry about:
The following data is NOT stored:
Historical record of VPN sessions
Source IP
Sites you visited
So we’ve told you that we don’t keep what most people are worried about when it comes to VPN logging. We explicitly said, we do not store these things.
Then, we explicitly say what we do store on our end:
For the duration of your connection the following is stored in server’s memory. This data is immediately discarded when you disconnect:
OpenVPN/IKEv2 username
Time of connection
Amount of data transferred
The following data is stored in a central location:
Number of parallel connections at any given time to prevent rampant abuse and account sharing.
A counter is incremented that stores total number of bytes downloaded/uploaded in a 30 day period.
And finally, at the end of all this, we give a statement saying that unless we explicitly mentioned it here, then it’s not being logged. There is no room for ambiguity here. It’s either part of this above section where we tell you what we log, or it’s not being logged. And as I mentioned, if you want more details on what this logging is for, you can read the blog post.